Call all this what you want, but you’ll have to answer to God on it on the last day, but it was nice that you clarified that your membership wasn’t long if at all.

Good-Day

BTW, I’m a thirty-year Ex-Mo, meaning I’ve been iout of the CULT for thirty + years.

If you were really in this Church for thirty years, you made it mean nothing. God knew where you were headed long before you chose it, because of your heart. I would say then, Mr Timothy, that any lack of anything is not the fault of God, his Church or his gospel, but that fault truly lies with you. I am sorry to say all this, but your words clearly show where you come from within you.

Hope the best of peace to you.

I will comment to one thing though, which will serve others who are asked the same kind of question based in – “this hasn’t happened to me.”

To each their own path of experiences with God, yet to most, that path is untravelled.

Church Membership alone, does not guaranttee anything without proper faith. Many will never experience the Holy Ghost because they choose not to. Many will not be afflicted, because their faith is insufficent to warrant spiritual changes, but these will fall in the latter days when the darkness arrives prior to the second coming because they refuse to prepare by the Spirit. Many will be unwilling to face their own shortcomings, by this they will not learn humbleness and have not the Spirit of Christ in them.

In all these people who are unwilling or uncaring, many uinfaithful or of little faith, many willingly choosing spiritual idleness, these have no call or place to discount the real and true spiritual experiences of those who are willing, caring, faithful and spiritually active (walking by the Spirit). It is this difference Dear Sir that brought you the experience of “this hasn’t happened to me”, you sowed what you reaped.

Years of membership means nothing when nothing was spiritually achieved, that is why the Lord spoke of the slothful servant parable and the idle worker in the vineyard.

Amen

“In all this “taking of issue” will degrade your life and this degradation will also have an effect on your physical appearance. In time you will appear unkempt or in a disarray. Your health will begin to follow this downward spiral. Your home or place of abode will begin to appear as if issue lives there with you. This is because ”order” does not exist in the state of issue. What exists in the state of issue is discord as issue is something in discord. Over time, if you hold onto the pattern or practice of taking issue your face will become hardened as well. By that time the “spirit” of softness has long left you. A life example of such hardness to body is seen in those who live in “harsh” climates. Their hardness has come from outside them, with issue it comes from within, but the results are the same. Is it any wonder God used examples of life to explain the affect and meaning of his word?”

My “first-hand” experience as a thirty-year ex-Mormon says you’re spreading lies. Nothing you describe in your supposed “statement-of-fact” has happened to me. How do explain that?

Timothy

The information presented is with actual experiences, proper study, insights and from the teaching of the gospel and by the Spirit. This blog is for those who are seeking input to help them and they have every right to be here. Those who do not wish input and care-less of this Church, have every right “not” to be here. My article addresses those people who choose to leave the Church and then turn around trying to instill their confusion and their discord into other members and sincere ex-members. What I defend against is the violation against the same freedom that gives me and other sincere people the right to protect the faith against offenders of that freedom.

As to your claim of offense.

There is none, so please refrain from twisting this article into your personal issue.

I wish you the best.

Do you really need a God or a church to tell you that you shouldn’t engage in such practices?

This is the Gospel according to Timothy … Why do we never get an answer when we’re knocking on the door?

Timothy

Your comment is filled with bias and hate. Your viewpoints are false and based on your deep seeded bigotry. This Church has no issue with races and any member who acts as a bigot should be reported to the Bishopric of his stake. Just because you fail to understand the reasons for past decisions by the Presidency, gives no reason or justification for such claims by you.

You claim that no race other than whites are in the General Authority, Seventies or Church Government, and this is outright ignorance on your part. Positions given to members to act withing the General Authority or any of the Seventies, or even Bishopric. Blacks, Chinese, etc hold various positions of leadership in the Church. But…to be selected **requires solid faith and proper character** in order for the selection to be approved by God. Such has no bearing on race or color. I see that this faith and character does not show up in your comment.

Read about the Black members of this Church – http://www.angelfire.com/mo2/blackmormon/000H14.html

Here is another link about races in the LDS Church – http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081016141548AAJBCua

Also, I removed your references made to young women, it was completely inappropriate.

As to my comments on beliefs that attack this Church – I stand in them and for them. My presence in the Church was Spirit led. You show the choice of selfishness and pride to lead your choice, but that is free will.

Amen

It’s not that some of us have left theChurch, but that the church left us.
It’s not that some of us are lazy or without faith, but that Others in the church Are, are too lazy to help us and without faith in themselves.

Were it not so, perhaps a Nephite sister missionary friend of mine (whom btw, is in her mid 40′s in Midvale UT and still waiting!!) would have continued to do her part of honoringPriesthood and honoring her Womanhood the way she kept professing to do and “wanted to do for a man such as I” (her words) and would have been templeMarried to me,

but your so called true church apparently has “issue” with people of race and color NOT being lilly white and living in Utah,

Your own White people have said, that us Indians are blessed and chosen, yet you don’t trust us and if you don’t believe me, how come your GA’s or other 70 are NOT brown, or red, black or yellow to balance out things equally if your so called church is really of god?

You seem to think that only Morgdom has Insight and access to Diety and that is false.

I know some alaskaNatives, some traveling musicians, some homeless drunks that do more to help mankind around them than any of your LDS people do-here in anchorage.

As for your apt descriptions of “hardened countenances” upon sinful “spiritless” people.
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cast your eyes around and you’ll see “hardenedMasks” of disapproval and contempt from theWhite folk,

my first stepDad was Mormon, his kindly parents were German immigrants and I saw as an infant, and felt from an intimate perspective on things how most whites look upon people of color,

In time, my grandparents grew to love me and my siblings, those first white people in my life were capable of hard looks but it also came from “Life”, as well, you are aware of Climate and other conditions of living. Understand, that these people were also close to God as they knew him to be.

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Not that there’s anything wrong with all of this, but you need to comment upon your own first before thinking you can take on Us who’ve left theCrutch for greener pastures, for happier days, for more trials and problems, for true Peace and Prosperity.

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I choose to be away from your moneyWorshipping Cult, I choose to be away from your selfish conditional Elohim and his plastic sideKick Jehovah!!, You can keep your exclusive temple club sir. I don’t need a Bakers hat to know my place in theUniverse.

And I don’t need to look to my Left, to see theVieled and covered women and how we LDS men really are shown, how “Taliban-esque” like the women are to be seen and treated. I prefer equality.

The God and Christ I know, and have seen “personally” throughout my own life are loving, are unconditional and could care less about money. Unlike your cult’s obsession with extorting it’s membership every month for financial gain and support.

And speaking from a former LawEnforcement officer perspective, We couldn’t do anything to thePublic until we had “Officially” gone through training, whether it was to Interview, or Photograph, or Write reports, to save Life, to fight Fires, for Firearms etc.

Your cult’s practice of putting layMembership in charge of someone else’s moral & spiritual welfare, like calling Bishops, StakePresidents, even Missionaries!! whom all have Not a Clue what to do when faced with other people’s problems is an Issue,

That from my perspective, contributes greatly to many LDS family problems from WithIn and it bleeds out into Society at large. I’ve never been burned by a Bishop tattling some minor problem of mine or some childhood fears, like some MorgLeaders have done in embarrassing their layMembership in breaking confidentiality, but I’m just saying.

Get with the times, get everyone in Morg leadership trained, licensed, bonded etc to fully function as an Org instead of just having theBlind leading theBlind and harming each other. In my current daily life, I’m a Barista and get a kick out of how childish and immature Parents can be, when treating their own kids and keeping them InLine!! when ever I approach with a sample tray of Hot chocolate or Coffee and Pastries for anyone to sample.

Your church sequesters everyone and doesn’t expose them to real life, real events and to real people.
I know this because I was an LDS Indian Placement program student for a while.
Thanks for posting. Lets hope you don’t censor anything of ours that we answer to you.

always, Abel
(my Temple name)

Samuel L Flyinghorse, Hunkpapa Lakota and exMormon RM
Anchorage, AK

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